Comments on: Ford or Calderon, You Decide http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/13/ford-or-calderon-you-decide/ The Unofficial Home for Real Talk Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:38:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jack http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/13/ford-or-calderon-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Jack Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:21:19 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.net/?p=152#comment-260 I also like Jose better with the starting unit but I think TJ is the better player, when healthy. TJ creates more than Jose does and can really give Kapono and Delfino better looks when he comes off the bench. We need his presence more with the second unit when Bosh is off the floor which is why Jose should start. I would also like to see them both on the floor more often, especially towards the end because their different styles may lead to a better team. I love them both. I also like Jose better with the starting unit but I think TJ is the better player, when healthy. TJ creates more than Jose does and can really give Kapono and Delfino better looks when he comes off the bench. We need his presence more with the second unit when Bosh is off the floor which is why Jose should start. I would also like to see them both on the floor more often, especially towards the end because their different styles may lead to a better team. I love them both.

]]> By: This Dave Power http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/13/ford-or-calderon-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-259 This Dave Power Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:59:33 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.net/?p=152#comment-259 This is a tough topic to tackle, both are strong in different aspects of the game. On one hand Jose is an incredibly efficient player who gets everyone involved and has developed a consistency on his jump shot that would be compareable to steve nash (2 time MVP. He picks his spots as well as any player in the league, very rarily forcing the issue, hense his high assist to turnover ratio. For TJ, he doesn't mentally think of the game as well as jose, but makes up for it with his relentless push to the rim. Idealy when you are the fastest player on the court at all times, your opposing defenders are going to need help, thus opening passing lanes for TJ to dump the ball off when defenders double down. I often find myself ready to pull my hair out when I see TJ taking an off balance shot or jumping into the air out of control but as I'm about to rip out my hair the ball usually lands in the basket or in another Raptors hands for a free jumper. My choice is Jose , as he is all star caliber and does get our superstar chris bosh involved in the game more often than TJ. That being said, TJ off the bench is incredible, it gives our bench another scoring threat (TJ, Kapono, Delfino) and gives him the ability to be himself more and not worry about getting the ball to chris bosh as often, because he will be the star on the floor at most periods of the game. Like Blake had mentioned, injuries happen in the NBA, having a top tier back point guard can never be a bad thing. This is a tough topic to tackle, both are strong in different aspects of the game. On one hand Jose is an incredibly efficient player who gets everyone involved and has developed a consistency on his jump shot that would be compareable to steve nash (2 time MVP. He picks his spots as well as any player in the league, very rarily forcing the issue, hense his high assist to turnover ratio.

For TJ, he doesn’t mentally think of the game as well as jose, but makes up for it with his relentless push to the rim. Idealy when you are the fastest player on the court at all times, your opposing defenders are going to need help, thus opening passing lanes for TJ to dump the ball off when defenders double down. I often find myself ready to pull my hair out when I see TJ taking an off balance shot or jumping into the air out of control but as I’m about to rip out my hair the ball usually lands in the basket or in another Raptors hands for a free jumper.

My choice is Jose , as he is all star caliber and does get our superstar chris bosh involved in the game more often than TJ. That being said, TJ off the bench is incredible, it gives our bench another scoring threat (TJ, Kapono, Delfino) and gives him the ability to be himself more and not worry about getting the ball to chris bosh as often, because he will be the star on the floor at most periods of the game.

Like Blake had mentioned, injuries happen in the NBA, having a top tier back point guard can never be a bad thing.

]]> By: Sam Cassady http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/13/ford-or-calderon-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-258 Sam Cassady Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:28:48 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.net/?p=152#comment-258 I dont think the question here is who should be the 'starter' vs the lowly bench player (the Raps are too unselfish for that), but rather who fits better with the starting line-up vs. the bench. Talent-wise, both players are obviosly of the starter calibre. I think that's obvious and Blake touched on that above. Most teams dont have this equality which is why starter vs. bencher is just a contested issue - ego issues. I like Jose because I think he better fits int the starting unit. Why? Well remember last year how the Raptors ALWAYS seemed to start slow, well with Jose, Im not seeing that. Also, when Chris Bosh is on the floor he needs to be the focus. When TJ runs the point - like it or not - he handles the ball ALOT, and I think it kinda wastes Bosh's minutes. Jose swings the ball more, and plus, when Bosh gets doubled Jose can hit 3s, TJ cant. TJ is the perfect fit for the second unit. He has energy and can create for players of lesser talent. TJ/Kapono/Delfino/Hump/Rasho is a pretty good, defensive, high energy second unit that will allow TJ to dominate. I dont think the question here is who should be the ‘starter’ vs the lowly bench player (the Raps are too unselfish for that), but rather who fits better with the starting line-up vs. the bench.

Talent-wise, both players are obviosly of the starter calibre. I think that’s obvious and Blake touched on that above. Most teams dont have this equality which is why starter vs. bencher is just a contested issue – ego issues.

I like Jose because I think he better fits int the starting unit. Why? Well remember last year how the Raptors ALWAYS seemed to start slow, well with Jose, Im not seeing that.

Also, when Chris Bosh is on the floor he needs to be the focus. When TJ runs the point – like it or not – he handles the ball ALOT, and I think it kinda wastes Bosh’s minutes. Jose swings the ball more, and plus, when Bosh gets doubled Jose can hit 3s, TJ cant.

TJ is the perfect fit for the second unit. He has energy and can create for players of lesser talent. TJ/Kapono/Delfino/Hump/Rasho is a pretty good, defensive, high energy second unit that will allow TJ to dominate.

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