Comments on: Marian Hossa to the Pens – A Much Too Thorough Analysis by a Hockey Outsider http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/ The Unofficial Home for Real Talk Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:38:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Sheeva http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-402 Sheeva Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:18:42 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-402 Just one thing.. Steve I dunno where you heard Hossa is after money. If he really wanted to be with the "highest bidder" as you said he would have stayed in atlanta, they were offering him a huge contract for multiple seasons. But Hossa CLEARLY stated he is not after money and his priority is the stanley cup. He just wants to be with the best team even if it costs him a few dollars a year, not messing around at 14th place in the conference although with a huge mega ultra contract.. I hope he will stay with Pens after this season, even if they dont win this year they got a real perspective for next "couple" of seasons.. Just one thing.. Steve I dunno where you heard Hossa is after money. If he really wanted to be with the “highest bidder” as you said he would have stayed in atlanta, they were offering him a huge contract for multiple seasons. But Hossa CLEARLY stated he is not after money and his priority is the stanley cup. He just wants to be with the best team even if it costs him a few dollars a year, not messing around at 14th place in the conference although with a huge mega ultra contract.. I hope he will stay with Pens after this season, even if they dont win this year they got a real perspective for next “couple” of seasons..

]]> By: steve http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-401 steve Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:21:25 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-401 maybe, but the cap expanding is not guaranteed, it could possibly go down (not likely) or even stay the same...although it is expected to rise a little bit next year. well, even if hossa doesnt resign in the summer with the pens, it makes them a bit more entertaining to watch for now. i guess i have to admit i wanted my team (wings) to pick him up in a sign and trade kinda deal, even tho we would have been right against the cap, and with zetts new contract coming up woulda been foolish...still getting used to the cap...i think it effected the wings more than any other team..in the past i think we woulda picked him up without even thinking about it. sigh.... maybe, but the cap expanding is not guaranteed, it could possibly go down (not likely) or even stay the same…although it is expected to rise a little bit next year. well, even if hossa doesnt resign in the summer with the pens, it makes them a bit more entertaining to watch for now.

i guess i have to admit i wanted my team (wings) to pick him up in a sign and trade kinda deal, even tho we would have been right against the cap, and with zetts new contract coming up woulda been foolish…still getting used to the cap…i think it effected the wings more than any other team..in the past i think we woulda picked him up without even thinking about it.

sigh….

]]> By: stu http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-400 stu Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:15:01 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-400 Steve - Hossa's going to want to get paid, you're right on that, but I don't know about an 8 year deal at 9m per. I'm saying that the Pens are going to be willing to pay him 7.5 to 8m on a relatively short term deal, and that the expanding cap will allow them to remain competitive while still committing a lot of coin to Hossa, Malkin, and Sid. I don't think you have a good grasp on the depth of the Pens roster. You talk about AHL scrubs surrounding Sid and Geno, but I don't see it. Ryan Malone and Petey Sykora aren't going anywhere, and they both have a shot at 30 goals this season. If Hossa does leave after this year, the Pens will just go out and sign a winger for Sid at around 4 or 5m per year, and throw a "scrub" like Ty Kennedy, or even this Tim Brent guy (no idea who that is) on the line with him. Don't worry about the Pens, they'll be just fine. Steve – Hossa’s going to want to get paid, you’re right on that, but I don’t know about an 8 year deal at 9m per. I’m saying that the Pens are going to be willing to pay him 7.5 to 8m on a relatively short term deal, and that the expanding cap will allow them to remain competitive while still committing a lot of coin to Hossa, Malkin, and Sid.

I don’t think you have a good grasp on the depth of the Pens roster. You talk about AHL scrubs surrounding Sid and Geno, but I don’t see it. Ryan Malone and Petey Sykora aren’t going anywhere, and they both have a shot at 30 goals this season. If Hossa does leave after this year, the Pens will just go out and sign a winger for Sid at around 4 or 5m per year, and throw a “scrub” like Ty Kennedy, or even this Tim Brent guy (no idea who that is) on the line with him.

Don’t worry about the Pens, they’ll be just fine.

]]> By: alex http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-399 alex Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:09:48 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-399 First, the chance of the Pens moving anytime soon is as probable as Rosie O'Donnell winning a swimsuit competition.A team with a new stadium and oh ya Sidney Crosby ain't going nowhere.Steve you are right about Hossa testing the market however. There's no way he's going to take a 3 or 4 yr extension from the Pens. He's gonna sign a monster 7 or 8 yr deal somewhere else. The main thing to remember here is that the Pens are the best talent in the East this year!THey have a few holes but who doesn't in the East? The time to win is now and STILL years down the road because of all the young talent they STILL have. I love Armstrong and Christensen but im telling ya if u actually watched Pens games, they dont stand out at all. They have players like my boy Tim Brent in the minors who could fit right in and not lose too much.Don't fall in love with Espisito either, bad attitude and will never be a star in the NHL. First, the chance of the Pens moving anytime soon is as probable as Rosie O’Donnell winning a swimsuit competition.A team with a new stadium and oh ya Sidney Crosby ain’t going nowhere.Steve you are right about Hossa testing the market however. There’s no way he’s going to take a 3 or 4 yr extension from the Pens. He’s gonna sign a monster 7 or 8 yr deal somewhere else. The main thing to remember here is that the Pens are the best talent in the East this year!THey have a few holes but who doesn’t in the East? The time to win is now and STILL years down the road because of all the young talent they STILL have. I love Armstrong and Christensen but im telling ya if u actually watched Pens games, they dont stand out at all. They have players like my boy Tim Brent in the minors who could fit right in and not lose too much.Don’t fall in love with Espisito either, bad attitude and will never be a star in the NHL.

]]> By: steve http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-398 steve Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:43:39 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-398 please......you estimated the numbers on the cap...there is no way that the pens can keep crosby, malkin, and hossa...why would hossa sign an extension before the season is over? he has said multiple times he wants to test the market. you know what "testing" the market means? it means going to the highest bidder. now tell me why hossa would sign a contract for 8 mill a year for 4 years when a player of his caliber could easily get 9mill and possibly sign for close to 8 years? that makes no sense for hossa at all. and if the pens magically are able to sign hossa, then goodbye to malkin. malkin is going to want 9 a year for sure. so the most realistic scenario for the pens is getting to the second round this year, losing, not signing hossa to that mediocre contract you suggested, signing malkin to an extension, and then realizing they have to fill there roster with no names from their ahl affiliate because they dont have any money because malkin will be a lot, and they traded 2 good players and an awesome prospect who coulda been around for quite awhile, plus not a lot of future help because they foolishly traded a 1st rounder. their management is gonna run this organization into the ground again, just watch. say hello kansas city! please……you estimated the numbers on the cap…there is no way that the pens can keep crosby, malkin, and hossa…why would hossa sign an extension before the season is over? he has said multiple times he wants to test the market. you know what “testing” the market means? it means going to the highest bidder. now tell me why hossa would sign a contract for 8 mill a year for 4 years when a player of his caliber could easily get 9mill and possibly sign for close to 8 years? that makes no sense for hossa at all. and if the pens magically are able to sign hossa, then goodbye to malkin. malkin is going to want 9 a year for sure.

so the most realistic scenario for the pens is getting to the second round this year, losing, not signing hossa to that mediocre contract you suggested, signing malkin to an extension, and then realizing they have to fill there roster with no names from their ahl affiliate because they dont have any money because malkin will be a lot, and they traded 2 good players and an awesome prospect who coulda been around for quite awhile, plus not a lot of future help because they foolishly traded a 1st rounder.

their management is gonna run this organization into the ground again, just watch. say hello kansas city!

]]> By: Anonymous http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-397 Anonymous Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:43:08 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-397 please......you estimated the numbers on the cap...there is no way that the pens can keep crosby, malkin, and hossa...why would hossa sign an extension before the season is over? he has said multiple times he wants to test the market. you know what "testing" the market means? it means going to the highest bidder. now tell me why hossa would sign a contract for 8 mill a year for 4 years when a player of his caliber could easily get 9mill and possibly sign for close to 8 years? that makes no sense for hossa at all. and if the pens magically are able to sign hossa, then goodbye to malkin. malkin is going to want 9 a year for sure. so the most realistic scenario for the pens is getting to the second round this year, losing, not signing hossa to that mediocre contract you suggested, signing malkin to an extension, and then realizing they have to fill there roster with no names from their ahl affiliate because they dont have any money because malkin will be a lot, and they traded 2 good players and an awesome prospect who coulda been around for quite awhile, plus not a lot of future help because they foolishly traded a 1st rounder. their management is gonna run this organization into the ground again, just watch. say hello kansas city! please……you estimated the numbers on the cap…there is no way that the pens can keep crosby, malkin, and hossa…why would hossa sign an extension before the season is over? he has said multiple times he wants to test the market. you know what “testing” the market means? it means going to the highest bidder. now tell me why hossa would sign a contract for 8 mill a year for 4 years when a player of his caliber could easily get 9mill and possibly sign for close to 8 years? that makes no sense for hossa at all. and if the pens magically are able to sign hossa, then goodbye to malkin. malkin is going to want 9 a year for sure.

so the most realistic scenario for the pens is getting to the second round this year, losing, not signing hossa to that mediocre contract you suggested, signing malkin to an extension, and then realizing they have to fill there roster with no names from their ahl affiliate because they dont have any money because malkin will be a lot, and they traded 2 good players and an awesome prospect who coulda been around for quite awhile, plus not a lot of future help because they foolishly traded a 1st rounder.

their management is gonna run this organization into the ground again, just watch. say hello kansas city!

]]> By: alex http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-396 alex Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:50:43 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-396 Oh how I love being a Pens fan these days Oh how I love being a Pens fan these days

]]> By: Blake Murphy http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/02/27/marian-hossa-to-the-pens-%e2%80%93-a-much-too-thorough-analysis-by-a-hockey-outsider/comment-page-1/#comment-395 Blake Murphy Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:00:54 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.wordpress.com/?p=209#comment-395 How did you get that picture of my rec room? How did you get that picture of my rec room?

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