Comments on: Lay and Pray? Stop Whining http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/12/12/lay-and-pray-stop-whining/ The Unofficial Home for Real Talk Wed, 08 Feb 2012 16:38:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: md http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/12/12/lay-and-pray-stop-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-1854 md Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:33:33 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.net/?p=983#comment-1854 ^^Herring got owned because he had an MCL injury and his mobility was impaired, not because O'Brien is a better fighter on any night but that one. The issue is fighting to finish a fight. If you have someone who peppers an opponent with jabs and slips clinches, but never really does any damage, it's going to be a boring fight as well, and they're going to get criticized. I'd also point out that there is a disparity with the scoring system, in that takedowns are often scored the same as a knockdown, when they're easier to achieve. I'd score a slam as strongly as a knockdown, but a single or double would be scored the same as a stuffed takedown...it would count, but not for much. The other factor to consider is that the cage--where the bulk of casual fans see MMA occurring--gives a huge advantage to grapplers, while the ring gives advantages to strikers. ^^Herring got owned because he had an MCL injury and his mobility was impaired, not because O’Brien is a better fighter on any night but that one.

The issue is fighting to finish a fight. If you have someone who peppers an opponent with jabs and slips clinches, but never really does any damage, it’s going to be a boring fight as well, and they’re going to get criticized.

I’d also point out that there is a disparity with the scoring system, in that takedowns are often scored the same as a knockdown, when they’re easier to achieve. I’d score a slam as strongly as a knockdown, but a single or double would be scored the same as a stuffed takedown…it would count, but not for much.

The other factor to consider is that the cage–where the bulk of casual fans see MMA occurring–gives a huge advantage to grapplers, while the ring gives advantages to strikers.

]]> By: Jason P http://theondeckcircle.net/2008/12/12/lay-and-pray-stop-whining/comment-page-1/#comment-1853 Jason P Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:50:31 +0000 http://theondeckcircle.net/?p=983#comment-1853 I remember the Heath Herring fight, he got owned and all he did was bitch afterwards. If you don't make room for someone's wrestling ability when you're preparing for a fight, you shouldn't be able to bitch afterwards when you lose I remember the Heath Herring fight, he got owned and all he did was bitch afterwards.
If you don’t make room for someone’s wrestling ability when you’re preparing for a fight, you shouldn’t be able to bitch afterwards when you lose

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